Wagner glucosamine supplement to help joint and cartilage pain for Muay Thai and MMA

Wagner Glucosamine HCL (1500 mg)
Muay Thai/MMA Vitamin/Mineral Supplement

Pain or problems with joints & cartilage? Maybe Wagner Glucosamine is the supplement to help...

Nutrition Facts: Wagner Glucosamine HCL (1500 mg)

Nutrition Facts

Serving Size: 1 tablet

Servings per container: 30

Amount Per Serving

Calories 0

% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0g
Saturated Fat 0g
Sodium 0mg
Total Carbohydrate 0g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Total Sugars 0g
Protein 0g
Glucosamine hydrochloride 1.5g

*The % Daily Value tells you how much a nutrient in a food contributes to a daily diet, based on FDA recommendations. 2,000 calories a day is used for general nutrition advice.

Protein RDA is based on an 80kg athlete consuming 1.6g of protein per kg of body mass.

Wagner Glucosamine HCL (1500 mg)

What is Glucosamine?

Glucosamine is a naturally occurring compound in the human body. It is found in the connective tissues such as the cartilage and the synovial fluid around the joints. The synovial fluid acts as a cushion between the bones. The body also uses as building blocks for other tissues such as tendons and ligaments.

In people with osteoarthritis and athletes with certain joint injuries, the cartilage, and fluids may breakdown and become thinner causing joint pain, irritation, loss of mobility and swelling. It is believed that supplementary glucosamine may help prevent the breakdown of these tissues and fluids and possibly even promote growth, or both.

My experience using Wagner Glucosamine for Muay Thai

Having owned a gym for 20 years and been teaching Muay Thai for the last ten, I, like most active people my age, have had my fair share of injuries. One recurrent injury that I seem to be dealing with is a chronic shoulder injury that becomes inflamed when holding kicking pads for Muay Thai.

Incidentally, I also teach boxing. When I stick to traditional boxing, I am able to do so relatively pain-free. But each time I teach Muay Thai, I feel what I would consider a level 3 or 4 pain in my right shoulder. It is usually gets worse and becomes more inflamed AFTER training- I would say somewhere between a 5or 6 on the pain scale. No doubt this is from either holding pads for kicks or knees, as the punches generate far less power.

This has been ongoing for the better part of a year. Now, if at all possible, I avoid Muay Thai classes. But due to the unstable nature of business brought on by this crap-ass pandemic, I am unable to keep more than a few trainers on staff. So, when we do get a few more people showing up to train, I get pressed into service. This invariably sets back my shoulder recovery.

For the last 2 months, I have been taking Wagner’s Glucosamine HCl to see if it will have any effect. In the past, I have used fish oil supplements when I have dealt with joint pain and have been impressed by what I believe is its healing potential. However, I used the last of my capsules during last year’s knee injury and I was asked to try this stuff out and to review it.

To date, I have been taking this Wagner Glucosamine HCl in the 1500mg variety for 6 weeks while doing my best not to take any Muay Thai classes. I’m still training boxing 3 days a week and doing 3 HIIT classes a week while being careful not to do any movements which will compromise my shoulder.

I know that with the healthy workload, I am not fully resting the area, but I do my best. I have sat out the sparring sessions of my own boxing classes. I’m careful when I’m holding pads for boxing- usually the right hook is the only punch which causes a little jolt. Whereas, when I hold pads for Muay Thai, I feel discomfort during any kicks and the worst is knees from the right side.

Likewise, when I run the HIIT classes, I put together a normal class for my students and I follow along, but I substitute exercises that I know can cause pain- mainly anything where my arms move above my shoulder. Or any chest exercises where I am pressing. Of course this means I have a lot of substitutions!

In addition to taking the Wagner Glucosamine HCl, I have also been getting massages with a focus on the shoulder. Luckily, I have a Muay Thai student in my gym who is one of the best at massage that I have ever known. To be honest, she causes me no small amount of pain in the course of her therapy, but is able to help me with moving the joint and maintaining mobility.

I have to say that this time, the recovery has gone better than it has previously when I had inflammation. Usually, I would expect a much slower pace. This is not a scientific study, as there are many different factors, but I can say that I believe that I’m feeling better than I would without the additional use of glucosamine.

What do scientific studies say about Glucosamine?

There are relatively few studies due to the fact that glucosamine is classified as a dietary supplement. However, those results have shown some relief for certain patients.

Among osteoarthritic patients, glucosamine has proven to show some success with people suffering from joint pain- especially in the knees. In athletes with various injuries, the evidence is not as conclusive, but there seems to be mounting evidence that some forms of glucosamine may increase mobility in areas which are recovering from injury.

Different types of Glucosamine

Glucosamine Sulfate (GS) has been in use the longest as a dietary supplement. It occurs naturally in the body’s connective tissues and its effectiveness has been documented for over 30 years. It is used as a building block for large-molecule proteoglycans. These are found in cartilaginous tissue and give it buffering properties. This form of glucosamine is readily absorbed in the body and the effects can be traced within hours of use.

GS helps with inflammation in the joints and has effects similar to non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Some studies suggest that GS may inhibit the breakdown of cartilage and may even aid in its repair.

Glucosamine Hydrochloride (G HCl) is relatively newer to the market and offers the advantage of being easier to absorb by the human body. Its effects are similar to GS but because it is easier to absorb, you may not need to take as much. This has been shown to reduce some of the side effects which are mainly gastrointestinal disruptions.


Joint and cartilage pain in Muay Thai boxing & MMA

Side effects of using Glucosamine Supplements for MMA/Muay Thai?

Though safe to use, the recommended dosage for both Glucosamine Hydrochloride and Glucosamine Sulfate is 1500mg/day. Side effects reported in only a small number of patients include nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal upset.

Most studies have been done using Glucosamine sulfate. Glucosamine hydrochloride has been shown to have fewer gastrointestinal side effects.

Even though this is found naturally in the human body, increasing dosage may be detrimental. Make sure that when you are starting any new dietary supplement or medication, you are aware of any changes in your body. It’s a great idea to keep a diary for not just your workouts, but when you start/end dosages and any signs or symptoms, including behavioral changes, which may present.

Also, be aware that some supplements may interfere with other medications. In the case of Glucosamine Sulfate or Hydrochloride, increased levels may increase insulin resistance.

Cancer patients especially those under antimitotic chemotherapy SHOULD NOT take glucosamine. Some studies suggest that glucosamine works by increasing the rate at which cells in our cartilage and synovial fluid replicate. Chemotherapy’s aim is to limit cancer cell growth. So until further studies are completed, it is highly counter-indicated to mix the two.

Other cancer patients are also recommended to avoid taking supplemental glucosamine as it has been shown to reduce the effectiveness of prescribed cancer medication.

Diabetic patients should definitely only use Glucosamine in any form after consulting with their physician.

Also, anyone taking anticoagulants- especially warfarin should seek advice from a doctor before taking supplemental glucosamine. These two are contra-indicated as it may result in serious bleeding and bruising.

People being treated with Glaucoma should see a doctor before taking glucosamine as it is thought that the suplment may increase blood pressure in the eye.

Those with high blood pressure should closely monitor their blood pressure when taking glucosamine in any form. Some studies early on showed a link between higher blood pressure and glucosomine use. However, a causal link was not established and subsequent studies were inconclusive.

People with shellfish allergies should probably just avoid taking glucosamine. It is produced from the shells of various shellfish including shrimp, lobster and crab.

Some people say that shellfish allergies are actually caused by the meat of shellfish, rather than the shells. That’s no doubt true as we rarely eat the actual shells of these animals. But it stands to reason that people allergic to the meat would also be allergic to the shells of these fish. It also is likely that the shells used in glucosamine may become adulterated with some of the meat of the animals in the production process.

Where can I buy Glucosamine HCL?

Glusosamine in all of its forms is widely available through nutrition websites, retailers and outlets throughout the world. Many gyms stock the product onsite and online e-commerce stores are a good source of competitively priced products. Because they are so widely available, the online sites such as Amazon, Alibaba and Lazada are great sources to go for price-checking and making sure you are not being gouged.

How much does Glucosamine supplements cost?

Again, because it is so widely available, you should expect to pay anywhere from 7-10 USD for a 30 day supply of Glucosamine HCl. However, if you commit to a larger quantity, you can surely find it cheaper on a per-dose basis.


Joint and cartilage pain from mixed martial arts (MMA) and Muay Thai boxing

Verdict: Wagner Glucosamine [1500mg] for Muay Thai or MMA

As most of the studies with glucosamine are done with Glucosamine Sulfate rather than Glucosamine Hydrochloride, we can only infer the results. However, the difference is in the stabilizer and we would expect that to have little effect on the outcomes. Also, it has been used by gym and sports enthusiasts because of studies linking it to favorable results in people with osteoarthritis which is a degenerative disease of the joints.

This is most commonly associated with older people, the obese, those with bone deformities and it is also more common in women. But because of the nature of the effects, it can also be common in athletes. The studies tend to focus on OA brought on by other factors and not just athletes. But we can say that there is a preponderance of evidence which shows mild positive results with the use of supplemental glucosamine.

That is to say that it may help those who use it within the recommended dosage and do not fall inside of the known of the risk categories.


Using glucosamine supplement for Muay Thai training

Reviewed by Southern Muay Thai Man

Gym owner & trainer of 20+ years, involved in strength conditioning, Muay Thai training, boxing & MMA. Keen cook, focused on clean, nutritionally-balanced foods (w/ rare cheat days!).